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Radical Financial Transparency

Courtney and I have decided to publicly expose the daily details of our finances!

Deeper transparency is in the pipeline, but for now you’re able to see the last several months of income and expenses, our full account balances, our discretionary budget categories, and our overall debt totals!

These widgets are updated daily as we enter our data into our PocketSmith account, so you’ll be able to see our successes and failures as they emerge.

New Zealand Transactions

DescriptionAmountAmount
(USD)
Date
South Island Transport$-69.60$-48.22Thu 31 December 2009
Post Office$-80.00$-55.42Thu 31 December 2009
Banking Fee$-1.50$-1.04Thu 31 December 2009
South Island Internet$-70.40$-48.77Thu 31 December 2009
South Island Leisure$-514.10$-356.17Thu 31 December 2009
South Island Petrol$-485.08$-336.06Thu 31 December 2009
South Island Food$-655.70$-454.27Thu 31 December 2009
South Island Accomodation$-576.00$-399.05Thu 31 December 2009
Currency Exchange$-670.00$-464.18Thu 31 December 2009
Christmas$-105.00$-72.74Thu 31 December 2009
Bosco$39.94$27.67Tue 29 December 2009
Easy Energy$10.09$6.99Tue 29 December 2009
School Reimbursement$111.30$77.11Tue 29 December 2009
Tow Truck$-685.00$-474.57Mon 28 December 2009
Rent Fire Alarm Fee$-246.38$-170.69Wed 16 December 2009
Transport$-5.60$-3.88Wed 16 December 2009
South Island Car Rental$-630.00$-436.47Wed 16 December 2009
Shoes$-8.00$-5.54Wed 16 December 2009
Travel Needs$-40.80$-28.27Wed 16 December 2009
Teaching$3,166.66$2,193.87Tue 15 December 2009
Subway$-9.60$-6.65Tue 15 December 2009
Eating Out$-9.00$-6.24Tue 15 December 2009
Classroom reimbursement$111.30$77.11Tue 15 December 2009
Post Office$-7.49$-5.19Mon 14 December 2009
Library Refund$-40.00$-27.71Mon 14 December 2009
Umbrella$-10.00$-6.93Mon 14 December 2009
Staff Function$-9.00$-6.24Mon 14 December 2009
Grocery$-30.00$-20.78Sun 13 December 2009
Movies$-10.00$-6.93Sat 12 December 2009
Prints$-5.50$-3.81Fri 11 December 2009
Vaccinations$-125.00$-86.60Fri 11 December 2009
Transport$-3.20$-2.22Fri 11 December 2009
Movies$-10.00$-6.93Fri 11 December 2009
Dominos$-7.90$-5.47Fri 11 December 2009
Mexican Cafe$-50.00$-34.64Thu 10 December 2009
Beach Ball$-7.00$-4.85Wed 9 December 2009
Gift$-8.90$-6.17Tue 8 December 2009
Grocery$-51.00$-35.33Mon 7 December 2009
Transport$-15.60$-10.81Sun 6 December 2009
Movenpick ice cream$-14.00$-9.70Sun 6 December 2009
Kelly Tarltons$-28.30$-19.61Sat 5 December 2009
Rubiks$-25.97$-17.99Sat 5 December 2009
Grocery$-67.25$-46.59Thu 3 December 2009
Burger Fuel$-14.70$-10.18Thu 3 December 2009
Thailand Loneyl Planet$-20.00$-13.86Thu 3 December 2009
Bosco$-60.97$-42.24Thu 3 December 2009
Grocery$-99.24$-68.75Tue 1 December 2009
Grocery$-43.78$-30.33Tue 1 December 2009
Home Upkeep$-64.25$-44.51Tue 1 December 2009
Pictures$-3.40$-2.36Tue 1 December 2009
Subway$-17.00$-11.78Tue 1 December 2009
Bank fee$-3.00$-2.08Tue 1 December 2009
Teaching$1,326.66$919.11Tue 1 December 2009
Rent$-300.00$-207.84Tue 1 December 2009

While mobile over the next few months our traditional ‘discretionary’ categories are going to be fewer.  However, below, you can still see some of the broad categories we are trying to keep in check.

Man Vs. Debt - "Discretionary Spending Budget"

Business Upkeep

Mon 1 February 2010 to Sun 28 February 2010
500.00
0.0% of budget used

Special thanks to the PocketSmith team for building the 2 automatic widgets above!

Our Remaining Debt

Debt Code NameOutstanding AmountInterest Rate
Sallie Mae Alpha Unit$15,4005.9%
Sallie Mae Beta Unit$11,3006.1%
Sallie Mae Gamma Unit$7,3505.8%
Nellie Mae Airborne Division$5,6005.5%
Citibank Guerrilla Troops$4,7004.4%
Sallie Mae Delta Unit$3,4005.9%
Sallie Mae Special Forces$3,3009.3%
Sallie Mae Scouting Party$1,1002.5%

Note: For those of you that don’t know, back in the first week of this blog I gave military-sounding codenames to our remaining debt. I’ve decided to keep them… I kind of like the way they sound!

If you are interested in how we plan to attack this debt (including the order of the loans), check out our most recent ‘State of the War’ update.

Share your thoughts!

What do you think about this concept?  What features or information would you like to see added?  This is a permanent page, so let everyone know your feedback!

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Russ Smith October 1, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Wow, awesome.

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Matt Jabs October 1, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Like you said… this WILL greatly increase your ability to “stick to it” Baker. You will question every purchase, which is what we should all be doing anyway. Bravo.

Thanks be to PocketSmith for their hard work in helping you implement this system, it looks sweet. Bravo again.

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Baker October 1, 2009 at 11:12 AM

That’s what I’m pulling for!

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Tyler Karaszewski October 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Not to be discouraging, but to give you a viewer’s perspective. Here’s my checking account transaction sheet (as a screenshot showing the last couple weeks or so):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2538/3971304351_7f0972e909_o.png

If I made it update automatically, showing you all transactions from the current date back through whenever I decided to start it, would you come back and look at it regularly? If so, why? If not, why not? What could I add to it that would make it useful to you? I’m thinking there might be a correlation between what you find interesting about my finances, and what I find interesting about yours.

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Baker October 1, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Actually this is a fairly good perspective. If you were to only show a log of your expenses and nothing else, I’d probably never check back. However I’m hoping to offer more than that. Also, my goal isn’t to have you come back on a daily basis (that’s kind of freaky).

Having people stop by every month or couple of months, or having new people stumble upon this page and get inspired IS more of my goal. Also, I’m planning on getting some accountability just from knowing this is public.

If I felt personally close enough to you to care about your financial goals, etc… (which isn’t too unrealistic), I’d definitely check back in. Although, you’d need to make that checking log a little more pretty ;-) .

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Tyler Karaszewski October 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Well, ok, I based it on your current page, not your planned future page, which pretty much only has a log of expenses (and % budget used, which is oddly all 0, even though there’s obviously purchases that fit into these categories in the expense log).

And blame Washington Mutual/Chase for the ugliness. It’s a screenshot of their site :P

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:41 AM

%’s start in October! So they all start fresh each ‘event cycle’, which for me is monthly.

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Wayne October 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I like this concept. It creates more accountability (or percievedf accountability) for you and may generate productive discussion for everyone.

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PT Money October 1, 2009 at 12:33 PM

What’s up with those internet cafe charges, Baker? Can you not find internet service?

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:41 AM

Don’t freakin’ get me started, man. Just suffice to say, I do not have internet at the apartment yet… o.O

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Ginny October 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM

I wish that you were more like us… this is inspirational, but with your travels, it is hard to draw the parallel to our life. We’re more run-of-the-mill – my husband is a teacher, I have a corporate job, we live in a 1967 ranch home, send our first of 2 kids to public school, the other to daycare… I would REALLY be interested the transparency of a similar family and in seeing what someone more like us could accomplish while applying your techniques and tenacity – who knows… maybe I just descibed our financial picture in the next few months.

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:43 AM

I know what you mean, Ginny. Our finances were much more ‘normal’ 18-24 months ago, like you’ve outlined. All that we’ve done to pare them down in on purpose, though. We aren’t sure where the future will lead us, so before you know it things might ’settle down’. ;-)

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Jill MacGregor October 1, 2009 at 12:47 PM

I am fascinated to see what the results will be from this new project you’re beginning. I’m also hoping to gleen ideas on how to enjoy more of life on less.
Thanks for the transparencey!
Take CAre,
Jill

Jill’s latest post: Making Fear Your Bitch–Turning Fear Into Challenge.

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Financial Samurai October 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Good stuff Baker! Transparency is key, and will hold you accountable for your actions. Being transparent will also peak the interest of a lot of folks too. I’ll be rooting for you!

Will you have a “Net Worth” or Goals page to share with us as well?

Best

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:44 AM

Yep, coming soon! PocketSmith actually has a cool goals feature (just helps you project based on cashflow when you’ll hit defined goals. My net worth is just these two account balances (US + NZ) – my outstanding debt, which is the next big project!

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Financial Samurai October 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Sounds good Baker! Looking forward to seeing the new goals. I put a $1 million cash goal myself on FS to keep me accountable and honest!

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MoneyEnergy October 1, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Very interesting. I like the PocketSmith interface. Smart stuff!

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L October 1, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Wonderful! Great way to make yourself deal the the truth about $. I just started a new way to hopefully stick closer to a budget in Oct. I have a “budget” with projected cost, as the month goes by I just subtract what I spend in each area. Hope it works!

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@owingmoneysucks October 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Wow…scary, but real. I’ve always thought that the most tell tale piece of someone’s life is their check register. Know what they spend their money on and you’ll know a whole lot about that person.

I wonder if Mint.com has the ability to create widgets like this for Wordpress.

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Credit Card Chaser October 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM

I agree – you can tell a lot about someone by what they spend their money on (much more than you can just simply by what they say). I was also wondering if Mint.com had something similar to this for WP as I am a huge Mint.com fan. PocketSmith does look pretty cool though and it will definitely be interesting to keep checking back on this page.

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Diggy - Upgradereality.com October 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Awesome Idea Adam!
Best of luck and I’m going to enjoy following this, I think it’s something I can really learn from!

Cheers
Diggy

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Ramona October 1, 2009 at 3:02 PM

So what I’m thinking? One, you’re truly brave to show us everything. Two, lol-ing like a teenager at your choice of the category “Blow”. Too funny.

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:45 AM

Gotta keep it fresh, ya know? ;-)

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Kirsty October 1, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Very nice idea! Thanks for putting me on to Pocketsmith as well, it looks like a great way to get my finances in order. Things are a bit chaotic at the moment!

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fazz rahman October 1, 2009 at 8:43 PM

wow. this is truly radical!

i believe this will work as nothing drives accountability as full transparency.

i’ve been doing some reading on the subject (but only in an organisation context). do check out the concept of beyond budgeting at http://www.bbrt.org

fazz

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Dave - LifeExcursion October 1, 2009 at 9:55 PM

That’s Awesome Adam….Quite the concept and very open about it. I think showing people that you are living by what you preach is awesome.

Good job Baker…

Dave
LifeExcursion

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Kelly October 1, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Interesting stuff.
I think there needs to be more info, or is that elsewhere?
Like networth, and debt amount, savings, etc.

And $500 for food and $300 for blow? That’s a lot!
We spend about $500-600 on food, but our family is twice the size of yours!

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:50 AM

Working on adding this in Phase 2! Because our finances are fairly simple our two accounts (US & NZ) minus our outstanding debt is everything. We are adding the account balances soon and I’m working on a outstanding debt page as the next project!

As far as food goes, I’ll say this: First, we could find more ways to cut it down.

However, don’t forget about the exchange rate (about $350 U.S.), the fact that we are still really mobile (we can’t take advantage of a lot of bulk savings), and our experience has been NZ has slightly higher costs overall than the Midwest. ;-)

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Mama Bird October 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM

I definitely think $500 for food and $300 for blow is about right for NZ. They are similar to Australia in respect to the costs of grocery, dining out and just regular goods. Probably more expensive in some cases since the population is less. Granted, I was only in NZ for a month, but the costs in Australia are often twice or three times that in the States. We (in the states) are extremely spoiled with respect to the cost of goods (among other things).

And just forget about buying organic unless you want your grocery budget to double. I went into an organic store last year in Australia was literally laughing at the prices. OMG, it was just unreal. Luckily I don’t mind as much buying non-organic there since they seem to put in less preservatives and crap to start with into their foods.

Plus, there are also no coupons, like in the U.S. So, until you learn all the tricks for saving money on groceries, you will need to allow a bit more wiggle room. I know there are some websites for tips on saving money in Australia, so I’m sure there are some for NZ as well.

Looking forward to seeing how you finish up this page. I was thinking about doing this myself a couple of months ago, but have lost momentum lately due to other commitments. Maybe I will take it up again after our trip in December.

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Thekla Richter October 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM

I am impressed by your willing to be so open and will be fascinated to see what you learn and teach as you go through this process. Good luck!

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Michael Harr @ TodayForward October 2, 2009 at 12:52 AM

Love it! PocketSmith is one of the emerging budgeting technologies that I’m really happy to see get a decent stage. Their forecasting method is the right way to go, as I’ve seen far too many sites that dedicate their efforts towards past expenditures. If I spend a lot of money at the bar or on travel, I already know it. What matters is the future and that’s why budget forecasting is the way to go.

Opening things up for unparalleled transparency is a terrific way to stay accountable, and I’m sure this one step will put you well ahead of the game. As always, nice work.

BTW, props to PocketSmith as they’ve come a long way in a relatively short period of time.

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Baker October 2, 2009 at 12:56 AM

Dude, you nailed what I really dig about PocketSmith. It’s that focus on the future and not just a bunch of past data. I feel like I’m being pushed to plan and project, instead of analyze. Great point!

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kenyantykoon October 2, 2009 at 3:25 AM

i gotta commend you man, i would never release such information to anybody at all. this is a whole new level of transparency. but its different and this has permanently hooked me to your blog :)

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Suzanne October 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Great site! I like the “radical transparency” approach, and though I’m sure it’s uncomfortable for you, it feels helpful on the other side. I have also recently started tracking every penny that I spend. I used to have some categories that I left open to interpretation each month, but not anymore! One thing that I think would be inspirational is to see how you are paying down your student loans. That’s the ultimate payoff here, right? Exactly what I am trying to do as well.

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Foxie | CarsxGirl October 2, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Best of luck! We’ll be watching. ;)

I wouldn’t want to open myself up so much, I’m already feeling bad about how much splurging I do! (Then again, it’s fairly balanced… But it can still look awful!)

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Will @ Cheap Date Ideas! October 2, 2009 at 6:21 PM

Hey Adam,

What you’re doing is so out there and unconventional, that it’s awesome!

Thanks for mentioning PocketSmith as well. I’m excited to use it to its fullest potential.

Cheers!

Will :)

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Ben October 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Congrats on the launch Baker. Yet another great example of stepping away from “normal.”

I’m saddened that discussing things like money, pay, and personal finances (not personal finance mind) is considered extremely taboo. They have been repressed to the point of not even being discussed within most families, almost on par with the topic of sex.

Props on pushing the transparency envelope. Keep it up.

Ben

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L October 2, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Love the updates on spending. Today I paid a total of $2700 towards my credit cards! $12000 left and a plan to pay it off by March 2010!

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Simon October 3, 2009 at 5:58 PM

For ‘Eating Out’, the widget shows $12.90 spent out of a $60 budget as 20.00%, when it should be 21.50%. Are the figures being rounded to the nearest 5% or something? In which case they shouldn’t show 2 decimal places.

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Baker October 4, 2009 at 7:54 AM

Awesome, thanks for pointing this out. I’ve notified the PocketSmith team and they are working on a quick fix. You rock!

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Financial Samurai October 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Morning Baker – Just wanted to double check something so I understand bottom row called “Balance” in the top Account Transactions page. Is the Balance of $2,874.49 NZ the total you guys have for the month, or for everything?

There are a lot more red rows than the one green row for teaching. Is this just initial start up costs cause negative cash flow? And will your future income be the Teaching + a new row for Online income?

Best

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Baker October 5, 2009 at 6:11 AM

FS, That’s the whole she-bang. A lot of what you see was move in cost for our new apartment. Initial bonds (deposits) on all utilities, the lease, and even the library. We have no credit here, so everyone wants a deposit! :-)

Our projected cashflow is actually positive now that Courtney is teaching (that was a partial paycheck above). I think you’ll see more of this as the month plays out! Although, I’m already convinced our projections were low this month ;-) .

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Stacey October 6, 2009 at 1:47 AM

This is me being inspired to start nerdy budgeting again. I am ashamedly obsessed by budgets, and I am not someone who is ‘into’ accounting or even into having a lot of money, I just like it as a ‘game’ as such, where I can prove to myself I can beat my records and reach goals!

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Little House October 6, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Okay, I have to get PocketSmith, I love these graphs! Can this work with QuickBooks? I already use this accounting program and would like to just use PocketSmith in conjunction with QB.

thanks for sharing your budget!
Little House

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Beverley October 12, 2009 at 3:51 AM

As a NZer I have a few tips…Are there farmer’s markets near your apartment? Fruit and veges at these markets are often considerably cheaper than the supermarket, and more often than not, of better quality. Woolworths.co.nz is quite useful – we do a big grocery shop online once a month (and have it delivered!) and then supplement this with weekly-ish visits to the markets. All up our food bill is around $300/month for two. Finally, if you eat out semi-regularly you might want to look into an entertainment book. They cost $50 and have vouchers for the sorts of places you have listed (pizza, movie rentals). Good luck!

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John Love October 16, 2009 at 2:05 AM

Hey Baker,
1. What is HipHop Dance?

2 I’m also trying to increase positive cash flow and reduce positive fat growth.

3. Been reading GRS for at least a year now, and ManVDebt for 4 months, and gotta say that you got serious balls. I’m impressed that you’ve uprooted yourself to have a pandemic life.

3a. Hey dude, we moved to NZ in (I’m from Kansas and my wife’s an Israeli) 2002 and have a place the opposite end of the country in Invercargill. If you make it down here my wife and daughter (she’s 15 mos.) have an extra room and a bed. It’s not much but it’d be cool to hang out with an American and talk about PF (my wife is kinda sick of hearing about it).
4. Keep it up and kudos on making your personal finances so irretrievably public. It’s a marker against others trying to achieve similar goals, which is helpful when people aren’t very forthcoming with their own personal finances.

5. I don’t normally post comments in list form.

6. Ever.

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Baker October 16, 2009 at 5:11 AM

1. Courtney does a Hip Hop Dance class for fun and exercise

2. Awesome!

3. Hehe, thanks!

3a. We are touring the South Island in December for two weeks. I’m not sure if we are visiting Invercargill, but if we do, I will DEFINITELY contact you!

4. Thanks, man. It’s been a big help to us and I hope it rubs off just a little. ;-)

5. Me neither.

6. Well, once I guess. ;-)

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Suzanne October 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM

So what’s your plan when you go over budget?

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Baker October 23, 2009 at 5:53 AM

Cry. No… I’m going to post about this towards the end of the month! Great question.

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Moneymonk November 19, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Why don’t you consolidate your debts?

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Moneymonk November 19, 2009 at 2:50 PM

consolidate your student loans debts, I meant

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Irene Suwarno November 26, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Thank you very much for being transparent about your financial situation, also for sharing the great tool you are using to manage your budget.

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R. Carter November 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM

So with PocketSmith do you need to budget every penny into a forecast event? Like if I budget all my bills and what not what happens with the money that’s left over?

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tanyetta January 16, 2010 at 8:16 PM

I am new to your blog. You have a really beautiful family!

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Budgets are the New Black January 18, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Are you going to nudge your readers here with a regular post when you’ve made updates? Or just assume people will check back as they want to? (I’d kinda like a nudge…)

I’m getting ready to do a post — today — on a similar concept, just not quite so detailed. At the beginning of the month I gave a figure of how much $$ we would be able to put toward debt based on our initial budget for the month. I’ve kept track of every tranx that “came up” since we did our budget (as in, it wasn’t factored into our budget). The plan is to do a mid-month “Budget Buster” post and one at the end of the month, and compare the projected numbers with the actual numbers and how that affected how much $$ ACTUALLY went toward debt.

In other words, how well are we doing in projecting and our month’s expenses and keeping within our budget? Hint: as of now, not so great ;)

The idea is that, say, 6 months from now, we’ll be a lot better at it! Time will tell:)

I personally think it’s interesting to see how much $$ is spent on a transient/traveling lifestyle, with a tot in tow. Even though you aren’t living like I am, your midwestern American values are reflected in what you choose/need to spend your money on, no matter where you are. It’s also a valuable snapshot of realistic expenses for any other family who’s thinking of doing the same thing. It’s impossible to know how to get the best prices/rates on everything in a brand-new locale. I’m sure in retrospect, you see yourself where you could have saved money. Kudos to you for putting it all out there and being transparent.

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Candice February 8, 2010 at 10:29 AM

You have no freaking idea how excited I am to find this site. Can’t wait to dig through all this info.

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