Goals or No Goals? — Episode 2 — Man Vs. Debt Podcast

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Note: This is a post from Adam Baker, founder of Man Vs. Debt.

Episode 2 of the new podcast is now live!

We are so happy with the amazing response to the podcast! After just the first episode we were featured as “New & Noteworthy” for the Business category of podcasts in iTunes.

Not only that, but we also cracked into the Top 10 Investing Podcasts in iTunes!¬†(For those wondering, iTunes really only has one category called “investing” for all financial topics, even though we rarely actually talk about investing concepts.)

Yet again, you guys have given us some great momentum for a fun new project. Thanks so much!

Listen to Episode 2 here!

You can also download the .mp3 file here; simply right-click or option-click and choose “Save link as.”

Notes on Episode #2:

  • We continued our popular¬†“What we can learn from the news!” section with stories on Louis C.K., Verizon’s new $2 fee, and Wikipedia’s enormous end of year fundraiser!
  • We then talk about what I call “traditional” goal setting approaches. This includes picking multiple categories for your goals and setting short, medium, and long-term goals for each category. We cover the well-known S.M.A.R.T. system and what we like and don’t like about this system.
  • Leo Babauta, popular blogger at Zen Habits, joins us to talk about his “No Goals” philosophy and why he’s choosing to move away from traditional goal setting practices. Leo provides some great points and really helps open up the conversation about when setting goals can be good… and when it can backfire!
  • Next, I provide my own spin on goal setting and resolutions, along with what my team and I will be using to measure our progress and success. (Hint: It’s actually in between the traditional planning and Leo’s suggestions!)
  • Finally, we wrap up with a specific challenge for you to take (you’ll need a piece of paper)!

You can also check out Man Vs. Debt editor and community manager Joan’s take, The Minimalist Guide to Visual Goal-Setting, here!

I really think you’ll enjoy this episode! Give it a listen over the weekend and let me know what you think!

Help the podcast reach even more people!

The best possible way to help is share the podcast with people who you know would enjoy it! Word of mouth is still the most amazing method to spread the news. :)

You can also click here to view and/or subscribe via iTunes!

If you are extra impressed, don’t forget to leave a review.

Thanks to “Patty2Cakes”, “MvDfan”, and “Cliff” for the first couple reviews in iTunes!

Here’s to all of us having an amazing 2012!



{ 8 comments… read them below or add one }

Jeff Crews January 7, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Love the podcasts. Keep them coming. About your fitness goals…..I know some Celebrity Trainers that could help. Maybe they would trade for your financial wisdom. :) Haha


PG January 8, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Just listened to episode 2 of the new podcast. Loved it. Just what I needed. AND I found you by accident, or would that be serendipity. Going for the no goals approach. Thanks.


Dwight Anthony January 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Great podcast there Baker, the interview with Leo was interesting. thanks for the share.

Dwight Anthony
Financially Elite Blog


jack foley January 10, 2012 at 5:43 AM

sometimes the danger with goals is that people dont alter course or others alter too early if the goals are not working..

In saying that whether you are in a job or have a business…

“We all know what we must do you better our lives”


Deacon Bradley January 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Really enjoyed the show Baker! I haven’t heard of the “no-goals” approach so thanks for sharing. I hear a lot of truth in the problems that no-goals is trying to solve – I’ve been there myself. In my opinion the same problems can be better solved with a better goal-setting approach. Also, just because you set a goal doesn’t mean your course can’t change if it becomes obsolete. You can still maintain that flexibility without throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Loving the podcast and looking forward to more awesome stuff!


Joseph January 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Love the new podcast! I just have one suggestion, and I don’t know if it’s been said already. But can you state how long the podcast is in your notes? I don’t like starting something i can’t finish, so it would be greatly appreciated if I know how long it is before I start. :) I listen through the website and not itunes because I follow you while at work. We can’t download itunes or anything like it. Thanks for doing what you do!


Patrick Irish January 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Great podcast !! Cant wait for the next one :)


Mike February 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Your blog is seriously motivating man.

Keep it up!

I’m going to start my own journey out of the unforgiving rat race.


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